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Posted at 26/6/2024 09:20 by S4 Capital Daily Update S4 Capital Plc is listed in the Offices-holdng Companies,nec sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker SFOR. The last closing price for S4 Capital was 44.10p.S4 Capital currently has 577,491,444 shares in issue. The market capitalisation of S4 Capital is £250,862,283. S4 Capital has a price to earnings ratio (PE ratio) of -41.77. This morning SFOR shares opened at 44p Read Full Thread Reply |
Posted at 19/6/2024 14:04 by wallywoo Well let's see, tongosti. You believe that Sfor will massively bounce at some point soon. Just like you have for a very long time. With numerous failed break outs. I believe that Sfor have weak support at this price level. Once broken, the share price will dive lower. Should only be a month or so. When the Q2 sales figures are released, I bet. Let's see who is right!!!Read Full Thread Reply |
Posted at 18/6/2024 17:49 by nige co Wally I will just prove you wrong on so many points.1, I first bought in S4 on 21st July 2022 @123p & again on 27 July 2022 @116.9p, so I have not been invested in S4 for 2.5 years as you claim. 2, I didn't buy in @200p+. 3, I have other shareholding like BT that I only occasionally comment on. So you're wrong again that I only comment on this board. 4, You post on here more than I do and I have good reason for being here, I own shares while you don't. You are a board disruptor, you have an ulterior motive. Not a good look. 5, Regarding the comment that you have posted above dated 30 July 2022, this was a reply to another poster. I'm not ramping, I'm just giving my opinion, on June 30th the S4 share price was 130p, considering where the share price had just fallen from 240p plus, my feelings at that time was that S4 was undervalued. I also pointed out the negative, being the age of SMS. I was true to my word that I would take my chances and hold S4 for a few years. I also said time will tell. I was not advising anyone to buy or sell S4, just giving my opinion regarding what my intentions was, isn't that what these BB are for? Exchanging opinions. Read Full Thread Reply |
Posted at 18/6/2024 17:11 by wallywoo Let's go back 2 years, Nige. When you first bgt in here with the share price around 200p+.Since then you have posted exclusively (99%) on this BB. And 930ish posts, all just as positive. Don't you feel shame? That your posts could of influenced many poster's to be 80%+ down here too?? Don't you have better things to do than flog this dead horse?? Do you see why I think you are paid to do this??? 2 to 3 posts every day ( average) exclusively for 2 years on a investment down 80% in that time. Nige Co - 30 Jul 2022 - 15:51:40 - 5171 of 10857SFOR- SFORTom, I would echo everything what you've said, I also missed S4 first time around. I'm only too happy to buy at these what I can only discribe as bargain prices. Time will tell I guess, but I'm happy to hold these for a few years and take my chances. The only dowside I see is the age of our leader Sir Martin Sorrell, he's a proven winner, I'm sure that he will sort S4 out going forward. Read Full Thread Reply |
Posted at 06/6/2024 14:36 by wallywoo Lol, the share price scares shareholders all on its own, doesn't need anyone's help!!850 to 50p in 3 years 270m to 600m shares in issue over 5 years A growth share price rating, but with negative growth. More than half of the BOD have decided to stand down from the responsibility. Just when the company say business will grow again. Lots to be scared of here!!! Read Full Thread Reply |
Posted at 15/5/2024 17:07 by nige co Wally, regarding Watches Of Switzerland Group, you mentioned all the positives but failed to mention the negatives. I've previously researched WOSG and I was impressed as you clearly are with the positives. However, I feel that its my duty to warn other board members, to point out the potential negatives that you failed to mention.What put me off investing in WOSG is the following that you failed to mention. In January WOSG came out with a profits warning, the share price plummeted 37% on the day, and continued to drop a further 13% to date. About 50% of WOSG revenue comes from selling Rolex watches being an official retailer for this great brand. Rolex made a game changing acquisition in the Summer of 2023 in retailer Bucherer. The big unknown is will Rolex decide it no longer needs WOSG to sell its expensive watches, or indeed limit the amount it currently supplies to WOSG. There is a good reason why the share price is down 77% from its highs. It may work out for WOSG, but at least tell the full story, warts and all. This is a prime example of why its always best to do your own research, and not take tips of Wally's on a chat board. Be careful out there listening to rampers. Read Full Thread Reply |
Posted at 15/5/2024 09:10 by nige co De ramper Wally still banging his same drum, had he done even the basic research he would have known that all past M&A cash payments are now all behind S4, paid up in Q1 of this year, with a few million more shares to be issued over the next couple of years, part of the 50% cash & 50% S4 shares. No shocks here, at least not to us who do our own research. Remember all these new shares that are currently being issued are issued at much higher share prices, mostly at 400p a fraction of today's share price. You have to hand it to Sorrell by agreeing to part cash, part shares issued at 400p was a master stroke. S4 Capital Net Asset Value 150p. Today's share price 53p.Or maybe Wally already knew all the above, maybe he's just attempting to deceive potential new S4 Capital shareholder from buying S4 shares. My advice to any new board member is do your own research, don't listen to anyone on these discussion boards, the likes of Wally has an ulterior motive, he certainly doesn't have anyone's best interests at heart. You have been warned. Read Full Thread Reply |
Posted at 10/5/2024 11:50 by nige co Tongosti, I have to be honest after looking at the Q1 results, I was disappointed they are poor results to say the least. We've witnessed the share price drop 20% on better results previously. The market reaction is unpredictable. With expected improving results going forward the market is now starting to look beyond these results IMO.You may well be right, the bottom is in regarding the share price, tried to go down this morning at start down 9%, strong buying sent it up 20%. A 29% swing, wow. I also think that S4 Capital are cheap in comparison to peers. Taking a longer term view 2025 & 2026, I think that S4 Capital will be well placed to recover, will it get that chance? After watching the company's results presentation I'm half expecting P/E making a move on S4 Capital. Just my opinion, I could be wrong. Have a good weekend mate. P.S. expect Wally to make an appearance if the share price pulls back a few pence, I can read him like a book. Read Full Thread Reply |
Posted at 02/5/2024 12:49 by auson1 tongosti,I don't think wally can. On 15th April wally says he went short at 58p he first mentions this on 24th after shareprice has fallen from 60p to 51p. No posts on 15th he posts on several times on 16th 17th 4 times on the 18th 22nd 23rd all with no mention of 58p short but mentioned closing his other made up short at 38p ! He even talks about this recovering and not worth the risk for a amall punt. see below 'wallywoo - 16 Apr 2024 - 12:37:11 - 10400 of 10533 SFOR - SFOR This will recover in the medium term. But it won't be quick. Massive amounts of debt, and a poor business outlook will make recovery look like paint drying. and this 'wallywoo - 16 Apr 2024 - 19:33:33 - 10415 of 10533 SFOR - SFOR This may fall further, but has been a great investment. Some good value elsewhere. Stuck money into glencore at 400. Was disappointed there was no refinancing needed here. Yet' The 17th this ' You are not really comparing a huge gambling distressed share with few assets and £200m of debt with a £60bn valued commodity giant with £80bn commodity based net assets and a 8% dividend. Are you? My investment there is up nearly 20% in 3 months with a 4% dividend coming and another in August. Although it is a 6 figure sum, I can cash it in easily. This investment is barely surviving. Not worth the risk currently imho. Even for a small punt. Could easily turn down rapidly.' Read Full Thread Reply |
Posted at 24/4/2024 09:07 by auson1 'wallywoo - 04 May 2022 - 10:36:33 - 170 of 353 SFOR 2022 - SFORCertainly a large amount of fear in the share price. Despite that have bgt in today at 298 for the first time. Sometimes you have to way up any potential bad news in the price. This comes out as a good risk reward, imo. It was only 20 months ago that SFOR easily raised £116m at 315p per share. There's been spectacular growth since then. Good punt ahead of the results, whenever they maybe!!' Read Full Thread Reply |
Posted at 09/4/2024 14:37 by tongosti Glad31you're welcome and good to hear you're finding it all useful. In general terms, I use price to sales as a (very) rough guide but only for reference purposes and never as a trading tool. With that in mind, a p/s=1 would imply a share price of about 180p. In turn that would equate to almost +350% from my entry price. During S4's previous bubble p/s=4, mind you! Like you say, no one has a crystal ball so the above is just fantasy, at the moment. Having said all that, I never hold a position simply because p/s tells me this maybe cheap (that's the fast road to the poorhouse as we have seen with too many on here all the way down from 850). Cheap can always get cheaper (and so do fundamentals along the way). The tragedy of fundamental-driven investing is that most have completely run out of cash when share price is at it's cheapest. Now for example is the time to go all in on S4 but unfortunately most are simply hoping for the share price to breakeven to their much higher entry levels. As for profit, that's wishful thinking at the moment. In other words, I stay with my position for as long as my trailing stop (rising in lockstep with the trend) is not violated AND the trend is well behaved. If so, then P/S metric simply gives me an idea on how much gas maybe still left in the tank but that's it. It is simply an idea that will have to be proved or disproved by market action. If Mr Market decides otherwise, I eat humble pie and oblige. Been doing this for 20+years and have learned the (very) hard way to stay with the position for as long as the trend it up and never switch to fundamental second guessing if the share price steps off the uptrend. Good luck. Read Full Thread Reply |
